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CAGED System – The A Shape – Lesson 25

Nate Curtis

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Nov 17, 2019
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Tonight while practicing sliding notes up and down from the "C Shape" to the "A Shape" I think I found the notes to the main riff for Black Sabbath's "Iron Man." So I barred up the notes into chords and started jamming away. I still need to figure out the ending part of the riff, but it was still fun to play that progression. Thanks for the great lessons Synyster and Pappa Gates I have never really been able to pick out notes and figure out songs on my own until now usually I have had to rely on guitar tabs. Thanks again.
 

Nate Curtis

Garage band Groupie
Nov 17, 2019
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Yeah up to a few a weeks ago I had never heard of the CAGED system. I am having a lot of fun with it taking it really slow to learn what notes are where, but in this lesson when you combined the "C Shape" and the "A Shape" and sliding back and forth between the two that was awesome.
 
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Jack Long

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Nov 11, 2019
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Is it kosher to hop back and forth in between pentatonic and major scales? I did it a couple times without thinking about it and it didn't sound terrible. For instance, I started in the major scale then slid up and continued in the pentatonic scale. I'd assume it's okay, considering most of the notes overlap, but I was curious as to what everyone else thought.
 
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David Deatherage

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So on the major scale in this position I noticed the tablature has two different frets to play the G note (that's a G right?). I find hitting the first string instead of the second a little more comfortable but it looked like PG just played the second string 8th fret throughout the video. Is there a "proper" way to do this during the scale or is it just whatever feels right? Or maybe it doesn't matter :LOL:
 

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So on the major scale in this position I noticed the tablature has two different frets to play the G note (that's a G right?). I find hitting the first string instead of the second a little more comfortable but it looked like PG just played the second string 8th fret throughout the video. Is there a "proper" way to do this during the scale or is it just whatever feels right? Or maybe it doesn't matter :LOL:
When you play it on the 8th fret it can lead you to a new position because you'll have fingers left to play with on the high E string. For this shape on itself I don't think it matters that much
 
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David Deatherage

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When you play it on the 8th fret it can lead you to a new position because you'll have fingers left to play with on the high E string. For this shape on itself I don't think it matters that much
Okay that makes sense, I was literally playing these videos step by step pausing and practicing with my guitar. I finally just put it down then watched every CAGED video and taking all of it in with sliding into different positions :oops:
 

Jack Long

Free Bird Player
Nov 11, 2019
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If you are playing the same scale.. the penatonic is inside the scale isnt it? Is that what you're saying or do you mean between major and minor scale?
Yes the same scale. I was speaking in terms of this lesson, where we were jumping back and forth in between the scale patterns of the 2 C chords. But i just realized I was playing the one incorrectly so I thought one or 2 of the notes from the pentatonic didn't match the major.

Side question, if you are playing in a major key, would soloing in the respective minor work?
 
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Yes the same scale. I was speaking in terms of this lesson, where we were jumping back and forth in between the scale patterns of the 2 C chords. But i just realized I was playing the one incorrectly so I thought one or 2 of the notes from the pentatonic didn't match the major.

Side question, if you are playing in a major key, would soloing in the respective minor work?
With respective minor do you mean A minor over A or do you mean relative minor which would be F# minor over A. The first one give a blues feel and the second one definetely works.
 

Calvin Phillips

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Yes the same scale. I was speaking in terms of this lesson, where we were jumping back and forth in between the scale patterns of the 2 C chords. But i just realized I was playing the one incorrectly so I thought one or 2 of the notes from the pentatonic didn't match the major.

Side question, if you are playing in a major key, would soloing in the respective minor work?
I'm a little off in saying the penatonic is in the arpeggios but it's almost there.
 

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So on the major scale in this position I noticed the tablature has two different frets to play the G note (that's a G right?). I find hitting the first string instead of the second a little more comfortable but it looked like PG just played the second string 8th fret throughout the video. Is there a "proper" way to do this during the scale or is it just whatever feels right? Or maybe it doesn't matter :LOL:
No "proper" way to do it. Whichever way feels right.
 
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Is it kosher to hop back and forth in between pentatonic and major scales? I did it a couple times without thinking about it and it didn't sound terrible. For instance, I started in the major scale then slid up and continued in the pentatonic scale. I'd assume it's okay, considering most of the notes overlap, but I was curious as to what everyone else thought.
If it sounds good to you, it isn’t wrong 🤘
 

Calvin Phillips

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I kind of understand where he is coming from..when im watching papa gates i want to play it exactly the way he teaches and i forget that sometimes all you need is an overview and then you can improv
Sometimes you will be required to change the fingering up anyways so learning it the "wrong" way really isnt wrong at all.
 
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Brian Haner Sr.

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I try to offer the "easiest" fingerings in all of the lessons. That being said - it's all subjective. It's only easier for me. lol. You may find an alternate fingering that's easier for you. When I learn something for the first time - I ALWAYS try alternate fingerings to find the most comfortable fingering. It gives me the best chance not to fuck up when I'm playing it live. : )